03-01-2016, 01:45 PM
(Esta mensagem foi modificada pela última vez a: 03-01-2016, 01:47 PM por Lithium.)
Cloudzin eles falaram pro 2GD, falaram uma, falaram duas, aí ele chutou o balde e deu nisso.
https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/...drama_why/
Então não, não dá pra apoiar muito o 2gd nessa, você tá sendo pago pra hostear algo em outro país onde a cultura pode parecer completa imbecilidade, mas respeita a cultura ou vai pro gulag chinês, ao meu entender seria mais light se o cara fosse com uma armadura de ossos na china.
Quando você bota em risco um negócio desses acho que o Gaben tá bem justificado em chamar o cara de "ass"(apesar das éticas e outras zueiras), e pelas linhas gerais guanxi é um troço bem bruto.
Ainda bem, porque nem a PW nem a Valve querem o partidão perguntando coisas, acho que a coisa é "não faça tanto barulho a ponto do governo vir fazer perguntas"
https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/...drama_why/
Citar:I looked on Weibo and Tieba to gauge the average Chinese netizens' reaction to the controversy (one unrelated thing you guys may find interesting that I'd forgotten about, the Chinese nickname for GabeN is Fat G). Anyway, the most common reaction was "Who the hell is 2GD", as you might expect. However, the second most common reaction was different variations of "He was hosting the show and made a sex joke? Serves him right, of course he was fired."
Citar:China's government tightly controls all media in the country, and one of the most longstanding rules is the near-complete ban on sexual content and pornography. Basically all porn is blocked on the internet. James's opening joke on the first day was possibly the worst you could think of. Not only did he reference porn and masturbation, he talked about circumventing the government internet blocks in order to watch porn. While he was in China. In front of a camera talking into a microphone.
Citar:So yeah, it's a pretty big deal and Valve/Perfect World most likely had to do a LOT of negotiating and utilize a great deal of guanxi in order to get this confirmed.
Now imagine Gabe's reaction when he hears about this at Valve HQ. "James did what??" Granted, as we know Gabe didn't know about Icefrog telling James to be himself which is definitely a breakdown in communications at Valve. But again, James made one of the worse jokes you could make, basically making a sex joke and subverting the Chinese government joke in the same sentence, the moment after Gabe puts him in front of a camera. At this point Gabe didn't yet fire him, but he was definitely on two strikes. This is speculation, but I'd imagine the "bottom bitch" comment was the last straw. Seems pretty innocuous in the USA, but it does have sexual connotations.
Citar:In this kind of culture, James' actions came across as a boorish ignorant tourist. Except he was a boorish ignorant tourist with a mic in front of a camera. I like James' content and I've been watching GD Studio for a long time. But it was clear that James has no conception of how whats acceptable to say on-air is different in the USA/UK and China.
Citar:James' "bottom bitch" comment was probably interpreted by Gabe as "well either he didn't get my NO MORE SEX JOKES message or he's intentionally defying it" and led to the "James is an ass" comment. For the record, I'm not saying I agree with Gabe's comment, but I'm trying to explain (as much for myself as for anybody else) what might have led to that comment.
Então não, não dá pra apoiar muito o 2gd nessa, você tá sendo pago pra hostear algo em outro país onde a cultura pode parecer completa imbecilidade, mas respeita a cultura ou vai pro gulag chinês, ao meu entender seria mais light se o cara fosse com uma armadura de ossos na china.
Quando você bota em risco um negócio desses acho que o Gaben tá bem justificado em chamar o cara de "ass"(apesar das éticas e outras zueiras), e pelas linhas gerais guanxi é um troço bem bruto.
Citar:Acontece que a China não teve nada a ver com isso, tudo partiu da valve
Ainda bem, porque nem a PW nem a Valve querem o partidão perguntando coisas, acho que a coisa é "não faça tanto barulho a ponto do governo vir fazer perguntas"
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